I've just noticed Professor Herold's response (yesterday) to
the debate on this board concerning the misuse by Medialens (not
to be confused with Media Hell) of his quote: http://www.mediahell.org/community/07102504.htm
(Professor Herold later posted a slightly differently worded
version to the Medialens board).
I think it's worth giving more prominence here (as it's buried
right at the end of that older thread):
If your wage is $20,000 a year and it is increased to $40,000
a year, I believe that represents a vast raise. Ask anyone who
experiences such a change. I simply used the word "vast"
in that sense, but it was highjacked by Media Lens and used
as a propaganda weapon to critique IBC.
Counted civilian impact deaths in Afghanistan number some ~6,000-7,000;
further indirect civilian deaths at some 20,000.Until someone
can show me, I repeat show me, that 3-10 times more civilians
were killed directly by US/NATO actions since October 7, 2001,
well until then, I don't care which so-called experts are cited,
etc. Naturally, counts are different from estimates. My approach
relies on much more than pure media reports, everyone capito?
Indeed, I include photos supplied by NGOs working in high-conflict
Does anyone READ what I wrote in the much-maligned correction:
"First, the population density of Afghanistan in areas
where most of the fighting has been taking place since the fall
of Kandahar around December 10, 2001, is extremely low. Hence,
the numbers of civilians killed in US/NATO operations is nothing
in the order of Iraq (which is far more urban)." For numbers
approaching 70-100,000 in Afghanistan to hold, entire sections
of Kabul, Kandahar, etc. would have had to be flattened (as
they were in the intra-mujahideen fighting of the early 9990s).
But none of that happened since October 2001.. For this comment
to be even considered, does it need to be peer-reviewed? Get
real. For 2-3 decades, I have fought and will continue to fight
such infatuation and awe of peer-reviewed journals. By that
token, terrific journals like Monthly Review, New Left Review,
NACLA's Report on the Americas, etc. would count for nothing.
As far as the much ballyhooed Guatemala study, I'd be delighted
to shred it when asked. And for one Simon C. above, since when
are economists (and engineers - I have an electronics engineering
degree...so much for this stupid pedigree nonesense...anyone
on the so-called Left should be ashahmed of themselves for playing
that game) an inferior breed (including in their mastery of
mathematics) to epidemiologists? This type of gratuitous inuendo
Professor Marc W. Herold, University of New Hampshire
[Originally posted to Media Hell messageboard, 20:08, 30/10/07]